DC-Lesson 5 - Revision history

Mormonheretic: fix category

2009-01-30T07:45:15Z

fix category

Mormonheretic: /* Links */

2009-01-30T06:34:40Z

‎Links

Mormonheretic: Oliver Cowdery translation

2009-01-30T06:27:47Z

Oliver Cowdery translation

Mormonheretic: /* Links */ keepapitchin

2009-01-27T03:32:16Z

‎Links: keepapitchin

Mormonheretic: added links section, Times and Seasons

2009-01-27T03:16:32Z

added links section, Times and Seasons

Reds0xfan: fix nav

2009-01-26T04:41:53Z

fix nav

Reds0xfan: New page: ''' "This Is the Spirit of Revelation” ''' {{D&C top}} {{D&C stubs}} ==Additional Teaching Materials== ==Navigation== Next DC-Lesson 4 Previous DC-Lesson 2 [[Category:Doct...

2009-01-26T04:41:28Z

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''' "This Is the Spirit of Revelation” '''

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	*There is some interesting material from old Sunday School manuals at [http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=535 Keepapitchin]		*There is some interesting material from old Sunday School manuals at [http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=535 Keepapitchin]
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	There are some good questions to add to the lesson at the [http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/01/sunday-school-lesson-5/ Times and Seasons blog].		There are some good questions to add to the lesson at the [http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/01/sunday-school-lesson-5/ Times and Seasons blog].
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		+	Some things to consider:
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		+	When you hear the name [[Oliver Cowdery]], you probably think of the story that culminates in the revelation that became Section 9 of the [[Doctrine & Covenants]]. This section uses Oliver as a (bad) example of how to seek and receive personal revelation.
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		+	But, the poor guy. I can't help but thinking that Oliver felt a bit like the rug was pulled out from under him. In sections 6 and 8, the Lord seems very encouraging of Oliver's desires to help with the work and even to actually translate. ''"If you ask of me, you will receive; if you knock it shall be opened unto you"'' the Lord says. (6:5). ''"Even as you desire of me, so it shall be done unto you"'' the Lord says (6:8). "''If thou wilt enquire, thou shalt know mysteries,"'' Oliver is promised. (6:8). ''"Whatsoever you shall ask me . . ., that will I grant unto you,"'' the Lord tells him. (8:9). Then, the Lord gets very specific. He tells Oliver that if he asks to translate, by his faith ''"it shall be done unto [him.]"'' (8:11).
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		+	How could Oliver not feel like it was done deal? Oliver Cowdery was no slouch in the personal revelation department. He learned of the Prophet Joseph and the translation of the Book of Mormon while living with the Smith Family. He prayed for his own confirmation of the truth and saw the plates in a vision, before he ever met Joseph. Clearly, he was a very faithful, believing person. Why else would he essentially abandon his life to go help translate the Book of Mormon?
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		+	But we know the rest of the story. Oliver tries to translate, and fails. The Lord famously tells Oliver that he did not get it; it was not just going to be given to him. Oliver had to work for it. He needed to study it out and seek confirmation. (9:7-9). ''"Behold, you have not understood; you have have supposed that I would give it to you when you took no thought save it was to ask me."'' (9:7).
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		+	Huh? What is going on here? I do not think God fooled Oliver Cowdery. God is by definition just and fair. But, I can tell you this: Most of us are not as faithful a person as Oliver Cowdery. If Sections 6 and 8 had been directed to us, would we have assumed that we were going to get what we wanted if we asked. Why did the Lord put Oliver in this situation?

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		+	*There is some interesting material from old Sunday School manuals at [http://www.keepapitchinin.org/?p=535 Keepapitchin]

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		+	There are some good questions to add to the lesson at the [http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/01/sunday-school-lesson-5/ Times and Seasons blog].
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